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		<title>Mwadmin: /* Quick Links */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Quick Links&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be alphabetical, save the Index.  Example:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be alphabetical, save the Index.  Example:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Quick Links to CLUMP Content&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Quick Links to CLUMP Content&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[ 10 Things for Newbies]] | [[Basic Game Mechanics]] | [[Coining | Coins]] | [[Creatures]] | [[Fighting]] | [[Healing&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] | [[Group Formations&lt;/del&gt;]] | [[Group Hunting]] | [[Tactics]] | [[Index]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[ 10 Things for Newbies]] | [[Basic Game Mechanics]] | [[Coining | Coins]] | [[Creatures]] | [[Fighting]] | [[Healing]] | [[Group Hunting]] | [[Tactics]] | [[Index]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think the Quick Links addition is is great btw. --[[User:Inu|Inu]] 13:51, 22 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think the Quick Links addition is is great btw. --[[User:Inu|Inu]] 13:51, 22 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Mwadmin: Created page with &quot;Please let me know what you&#039;d like information on. Also, if you want to add info to the manual, I&#039;m looking for contributors.  Inu writes: How about moving the Appendices to the ...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-25T11:34:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Please let me know what you&amp;#039;d like information on. Also, if you want to add info to the manual, I&amp;#039;m looking for contributors.  Inu writes: How about moving the Appendices to the ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Please let me know what you&amp;#039;d like information on. Also, if you want to add info to the manual, I&amp;#039;m looking for contributors.&lt;br /&gt;
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Inu writes: How about moving the Appendices to the bottom of the TOC instead of being in chapter 2 or is this going to break a lot?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Where it goes... ==&lt;br /&gt;
I put the index first with other things below it, so, it really belongs with the index as a section 2.x.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== New Pages===&lt;br /&gt;
I think that We should discuss reorganizing the CLUMP&amp;#039;s Appendicies into a more orderly fashion. For instance the dance commands doesn&amp;#039;t have to link off the main page, it could just as easily link off the macros page.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, if you&amp;#039;re writing something and know there&amp;#039;s an entry pertaining to it in the CLUMP see if you can fit it in there logically instead of creating a new page, unless the subject matter is pretty hefty, and deserves its own page. For instance Toggling deserves its own page AND it should probably be under the Basics. I&amp;#039;d like to take all the 30-50 some pages and reorganize them and give some of them a direct link from the main page while removing others that are really subtopics. The reason being is that it&amp;#039;s getting overwhelming to come here and see all these pages. It makes the game look overly complex, when it&amp;#039;s not that, it&amp;#039;s just a collection of stuff passed on orally for years. Anyway, think about it and e-mail me here, or let&amp;#039;s we can discuss this over [http://vagilemind.com/clanlord/viewforum.php?f=19 Coffee &amp;amp; Donuts] at the Sentinel. (Reflecting this on the Sentinel.) --[[User:Mwadmin|noivad]] 00:28, 21 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In anticipation of the reorganization, I have created a true [[Index]] page following the format found in books.  It is not linked in. --[[User:Inu]] 14:03, 21 June 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Making Links===&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, if you&amp;#039;re writing content about, say Sunstone wear and mention that [[The_Karma_System|Karma]] has a factor, but  you don&amp;#039;t know or don&amp;#039;t have time or energy ot link it, could you please write in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;{link}&amp;#039;&amp;#039; right after the word or phrase that needs to be linked too? I&amp;#039;ll go through the pages and do a search for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;{link}&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and drop in the appropriate link. If it&amp;#039;s an external site just write the partial url like thid &amp;#039;&amp;#039;doggies.com {link} &amp;#039;&amp;#039; and I&amp;#039;ll come by and clean it up for you. --00:28, 21 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Vandals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Inu: Why not protect all pages so that only members of a specified group can edit?  Can media wiki support groups and protection like that?&lt;br /&gt;
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Inu: I have researched it, and apparently this cannot be done without granting god like access to those in the group.  That is a shame.  From what I could see all you can do is require the users be logged in before they make a change.  Perhaps instead reverting back to manual account creation will work.  There doesn&amp;#039;t seem to be a large population interested in editing this work anyway, so it might be feasible to just manage users accounts manually, and not allow automatic account creation.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a major shortcoming of MediaWiki. I&amp;#039;d like to not have to go to manual account creation and it&amp;#039;s very easy to roll back pages. If this starts happening every day, then I might just lock out account creation altogether, or switch to yet another wiki, though I like this one a lot. It&amp;#039;s a real shame people find it gratifying to destroy others&amp;#039; work. --[[User:Mwadmin|noivad]] 11:09, 17 April 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nerfs appendix ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Inu asks: Would it be bad form to post the nerfs made in an appendix. I was thinking the intent is to warn new players (and maybe oldies who didn&amp;#039;t know) about changes made that impact various aspects of the game and/or their character&amp;#039;s profession.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes it would be. We want current information, if someone mentions &amp;quot;oh BTW this used  be different&amp;quot; in their content then that&amp;#039;s fine, but we strive to be up to date so we don&amp;#039;t confuse new players. If an old player comes back and wants to see how things have changed they can simply read up on the topic. A separate page would be extraneous, confusing and bad form. --[[User:Mwadmin|noivad]] 13:28, 21 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rename the &amp;quot;index&amp;quot; section ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think renaming the section entitled &amp;quot;index&amp;quot; on the main page to something like &amp;quot;Main Topics&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Chapters&amp;quot; would help to eliminate some confusion, make more sense, and allow the new books style index to be linked in easier. --[[User:Inu|Inu]] 06:53, 22 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quick Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should this be alphabetical, save the Index.  Example:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Quick Links to CLUMP Content&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[ 10 Things for Newbies]] | [[Basic Game Mechanics]] | [[Coining | Coins]] | [[Creatures]] | [[Fighting]] | [[Healing]] | [[Group Formations]] | [[Group Hunting]] | [[Tactics]] | [[Index]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the Quick Links addition is is great btw. --[[User:Inu|Inu]] 13:51, 22 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reorg ready to be implemented. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I finished copying the content that would be lost from the main page when the new one that Torin made is implemented.  So basically, we are ready to go.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Noivad, can you rename the existing main_page to oldMain_Page?  If so then can you also make Torin&amp;#039;s mockup the new main page?  If not, then let me know and I will create the oldMain_Page and move the current main page content to that and bring in Torin&amp;#039;s changes. --[[User:Inu|Inu]] 14:17, 22 June 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Now with more pictures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;m adding pictures as I get them because the content is pretty dry. I thought Naferu&amp;#039;s yell was a funny one to add. --[[User:Mwadmin|noivad]] 23:08, 2 December 2007 (PST) &lt;br /&gt;
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To add a picture edit a page and click on the picture frame, then type the name if you want the picture to be left or right wrapped type |right or |left right after the picture name. Then save it, and click on the link to choose which picture to upload.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Changing more bold sections into linkable sections ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am changing glossary and other pages to change the bolded items into linkable sections.  This is more user friendly, so that when a new/oldbie stops by, they won&amp;#039;t have to &amp;#039;search&amp;#039; to find out what something means.  So far has hit S and a couple of other pages. --[[User:Inu|Inu]] 11:19, 26 January 2009 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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That&amp;#039;s fine if you want to do the work I won&amp;#039;t object. --[[User:Mwadmin|noivad]] 13:46, 26 January 2009 (PST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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